17 May 2012

Pleniers Coercer

Today I felt like taking this ship out for a spin:

[Coercer, Pleniers]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I

Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I

This is not a fit I came up with. I 'stole' it from a EvE player named Pleniers who posted a video on Youtube where he showed how he (I am assuming its a guy) used this fit. Here is the link: Link Pls have a look if you haven't seen it yet. I think it is worth your time. Anyway he deserves the credit for the fit.  

When I saw it this  just looked like so much fun for a a relatively cheap ship that I had to try it. It has got so much going for it that I like; it is Amarr, it has Lazorrrs (<3 \o/), it has decent speed and  it does 250+ DPS at 21 km! Yeah.. really, it does :) (with my skills). Amazing right ? I think so. But..... ehm here is the catch ...it ain't got no point. So .. it ain't no good for PvP.. right?

I have always heard ever since I have stared being interested in PvP in EvE that any, any PvP fit needs at least a point or a scram. It is mandatory, how else are you going to prevent your opponent from escaping? I mean , why torture yourself by letting a  potential kill escape once he/she/it notices that it is losing the fight. You need that point to get the kill, right?

First time I saw an earlier vid by Pleniers I felt surprised and didn't consider that this could work. Any sane person would warp out if he got the chance, you need a point or scram.  
I disregarded the concept as silly that could only work in rare cases and would not be worth anyone's time. 

Oke, so later I saw this vid from Kil2: Daredevil

Yeah, same thing with a Daredevil, no point or scram. And.. plenty of kills.. Now, Kil2 is my EvE pvp hero.  I watch almost all his vids and his and Koverix's commentary video's are my mains source of study material for learning PvP. So now I was taking this concept very seriously and started thinking about it. 
Watching this video I finally got how this concept worked: it is based on psychology not theory.. It is based on 2 things (I think);
  1. The aggressiveness of your opponent and,
  2. That people sometimes do not to check if they are pointed during a fight. They either assume they are pointed or are in a state of panic and forget that they can get out.
Having realized this the fit started to make sense to me. btw Imagine the possibilities of this if you could replace the point or scram on other fits as well and ad something extra instead of that.. hmm interesting. But I am starting to ramble.

On with the blog. So after thinking about all this and seeing Pleniers latest vid I wanted to try this amazing ' pointless'  ship. I wanted to see if I could make it work as well. It isn't that risky. It is not a very expensive experiment (only about 25mill for the whole fit with current prices in Dodixie) And if I don't look at the missing piont/scram, I really like the other stats of the fit. So I did take it out today with some succes. I went into Syndicate and found a fight. Here is the short story about what happened.

I went to KTHT-0 without much incident. I had seen there was some activity there on the map. I used the method kil2 posted some days ago:Finding fights so see it works  ;). Check it out if you have not. Local had about 5-6 people in it when I arrived. 

I warped to the planet near the station to check for any activity. There was an Oracle and a Rapier at the station which, together,  is a bit to much to take on for me. I did try however but warped away after the first 2 volleys from the Oracle blew my shields away. I moved on to  1-NKVT. A Sabre followed me into the system a few moments later. 

Note: A Sabre is the perfect opponent for this fit. It is likely shield tanked and will have close range weapons so I started looking for an opportunity to fight it. I want to have it at 20km away from me and keep that distance from it as long as I can to put as much dps on it as I can. But how do I  get in that position? That is the problem.

So, I warped from celestial  to celestial  to locate the Sabre using the scanner. He seemed to be warping around too (or cloaking idk) . Finally I scanned him down at the KTHT gate and I warped to it at 50km. 50k is enough distance for me to feel safe and keep my options open. At that time I am still expecting his friends to jump in. He was not alone, that is what I assumed.

As I arrived he warped off. So now I did't really know what to do but just hang around the gate at 50-60k . Moments later he warped back on grid though, lands at 0m from the gate and starts burning for me right away.. which is perfect for me. I locked his ship and switched my camera to it to see what he was doing. I started shooting at 30km (way to soon.., hoping my lazors wouldn't burn out) and realized that I needed to run away :),ups.. I was still flying at an 90 degree angle from him at that moment. I clicked in space to fly in the same direction as he was when I realized that I forgot to turn on my MWD.. oh f*** he is going to catch me ..

He does catch me .. but fortunately by the time he is on top of me his shields are gone and his ships armor is dropping fast.. I am scared then that he will orbit my ship and I won't be able to finish him off because of the poor tracking scorch provides. Hence I switch to Multi at the last moment. And then.. he pops.. 

Meanwhile his friends have jumped in but they are at a safe distance, about 95k away.. I am very scared at that moment (don't ask me why I just am) , my adrenaline is pumping and I warp out as soon as I can to get to safety. Which seems to take a very long time. So that fights ends well for me. - 1 Sabre.

I am very satisfied with that kill. A 73mil kill with a 25mil ship. And.. this fit definitely worked. The Sabre pilot was very aggressive and that was his downfall. I don't think he ever realized that he could have gotten away and I am not sure that was his intention if he did know. 

So I can conclude from my own experience today that you can successfully PvP without a point or scram. I mean, Kil2 showed it can be done and Pleniers showed it as well.. But if I can do it , a rookie space pvp cadet^^ , anyone can.

Thanx Pleniers, definitly a very cool ship/fit. I hope I will have a lot more fun in it.

[EDIT] I am aware that in PvP-fleets ships often do not fit point/scrams. I am talking about solo-PvP only here.







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